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crisisoftheweek Really? This goes on in the goyish world until the man in mature enough to love a woman for who she is inside (approximately age 35). By goyim this is how it works very often, boy and...
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OneOfMany You understand NOTHING of what the typical teenage boy is all about. They run on hormones. I will also add that most teenage girls are too immature for a relationship as well and are using...
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WIY: (1) Hate to break it to you, but your conception of non-Jewish relationships is not grounded in reality. (2) Sheichus teenage boys? All human beings are run on hormones. Males age 97. Females aged...
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Here is my poem for why boys shouldn't talk to girls: Girls are evil, licentious, and more They will lie to your face, stab their friends in the back Think you only like them for looks and possibly...
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You understand NOTHING of what the typical teenage boy is all about. They run on hormones. How about we'll all just say our own experiences instead of generalizing. Because we can't really know what...
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OOM - I understand what you are saying, but I really don't think that was what was said. In fact I am pretty sure it wasn't. It sounds like it was interpreted (by many here) with a strong, reflexive...
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"If a girl has trouble accepting the basic halacha as it is, try to find her other emotional (or dare I say, intellectual) outlets."Why and what? Why find another emotional trick to get her to follow...
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There is no such thing as guys and girls "Just Being Friends". While a girl maybe happy with where a relationship is at, the guy is always trying to get to the next base.
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PBA: Double chin? :) OOM: I totally agree. I don't know f boys' hormones are like WIY says or no, but that is really not the point. The rapid 180 girls are expected to turn in attitude the second they...
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kevuda: If you were taking a medication to treat your, say, hypertension (ch"v) and suddenly found out that with every dose, a small amount of poison is being stored in your body which will eventually...
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OneOfMany 1) You are right I omitted the one (or 2 or 3) night stands. 2) Teenagers have raging hormones edited. Additionally because their brains are still growing and maturing, which doesnt complete...
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This is all kinds of wrong, wrong, wrong. It's 'all boys are evil animals and all girls are pure, demure and need protecting'. It's this kind of misandrist claptrap that creates the kind of atmosphere...
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writersoul I guess girls are smart until they decide to be thickheaded."You can never ever trust a boy"? "Every boy is a liar, a pervert, a jerk"? That line doesn't mean always in all situations. It...
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Syag: The funny thing is I think all the arguments from the other side are coming from reflexive bias. And I have zero personal investment in this issue (except perhaps some investment in dispelling...
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WIY: (1) Okay, I'll rephrase. Where are you getting your information on how non-Jewish relationships work? (2) Sheichus teenage boys? All human beings are run on hormones. Males age 97. Females aged 3...
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One of many Go google raging hormones and the effects it has on teenage boys and come back. Also google what goes on in college and all that. Most of it wont be allowed by your filter if you have one....
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@MCPThanks! there was more to it but it didnt make it past the mods.
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Just random thoughts popping into my head: (Not necessarily Jewish/Halacha related, but might be relationship related)Even if men are pigs as the Gadol Hagirls R' Orlofsky teaches, girls are now aware...
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WIY: (1) The Internet is not a credible source for how relationships work in the real world, Jewish or non-Jewish. Do you believe what the Internet says about Gerrer marriages? (2) Go read the comment...
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Danish123: +1,000,000 That was a awesome poem! I am a girl, and I can relate to what you wrote in a very positive way. Its so true!!!
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WIY: What part of "never, ever" don't you understand? Do you like being called a liar, pervert and jerk? Because that's what they're doing, and that's what I take offense at, because by creating such...
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Oneofmany I disagree theres plenty of factual information to be found on non Jewish relationships. (Who is lying about them? Jews?) "Do you believe what the Internet says about Gerrer marriages?"...
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WIY: (1) (a) How are you verifying that it is "factual"? How are you verifying what the Internet says about Gerrer marriages is "factual"? (1) (b) I am not looking for information. That is not why I am...
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danish123: omg! you are amazing, this poem is the best!!!!!!! Was it you who wrote it???
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WIY: I'm tired and I've got too much homework- I'm going to let OOM do the arguing on this one, as I think we pretty much agree (and she's much better than me at putting her thoughts clearly and...
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Guys- can you answer a simple question. When speakers like R'Orlofsky, R'Mechanic, R'Wallerstien, etc come to speak to us girls they bash how terrible guys are amd thats why we shouldnt talk to...
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Guys c'mon. No one is saying that boys are pigs, or terrible animals or something. I've heard Rabbi Wallerstein speak and he does not bash guys like that. But its just a fact that they have a very...
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From a male perspective: There is no such thing as a purely platonic friendship. There always is sexual tension, because that is how men are made. If you're not talking to a guy within the context of...
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@ultimiateskier, They don't tell us anything. The only shmuzim I've heard on this topic were recordings from speeches given to girls.
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batseven: Read the full list from which OOM took her examples. It should be on FrumTeens. Very calm and neutral, no?
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writersoul: Thanks for the vote of confidence. :) But until he decides to address the points I made in my second post on this thread, which is what he is seemingly reacting to, there isn't much more...
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Oneofmany"Syag: Because both of them are promoting justifications that are not grounded in reality. Boys display sociopathic behavior up until marriage and then become kind, sensitive snowflakes? If...
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In societies where boys and girls interact constantly, the girls tent to form into a certain mold. When around boys, or men,a they try to act 'cute', or perhaps babyish. You can witness this wherever...
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I think, and noticed, that the teenage years is a time of forming strong bonds. This shows out in many aspects. Students become very connected to their mentors, friends become very close and hang on...
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HaLeiVi Possibly. It does say Shemoneh esrei Lechupah. As long as a boy has the right hashkafos and is mature enough he should get married younger. However sadly I have seen young couples in public...
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I think this is silly. Yes, there will always be some tension there when boys and girls are together. That's how we're made. It doesn't mean that every interest of guys when talking to girls is that....
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What most of you are missing is that this poem is discussing those boys that are "hanging out" and trying to woo girls, not necessarily your average yeshiva bochur. Yes, some expressions could use...
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Ok, so now that I've calmed down a bit it's time to respond to individual posts rather than just ranting generally. Here goes:SaysMe -so well said!thanks for sharing!Bored -yup so well said!mitzvagirl...
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Girls are evil, licentious, and more They will lie to your face, stab their friends in the back Think you only like them for looks and possibly their snacksTo slip into teen mode:OMG!!! like...
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It's this kind of misandrist claptrap that creates the kind of atmosphere where girls feel perfectly comfortable taking pictures of guys dancing behind the mechitza so they can rate them and guys feel...
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GAW - I'm astounded, absolutely flabbergasted. It's not simply Halacha, it's the attitude. If we're going to talk about Halacha well then there's nothing wrong with boys rating girls either, even...
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danish123You have expressed yourself in a quite articulate manner and I (late 40's male)) truly believe you are correct on many points. Most medical people will confirm that teenage males with their...
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jmh - I think you (and many others) are overreacting in a big way. If this was posted by a secular teen expressing her thoughts about why it would be better for her not to be messing with boys who are...
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Syag - Nope, I'd have cared very much. It isn't about how frum a person is, it's about how you can dehumanise the entire opposite gender (and, what is worse, on the mistaken basis that they apparently...
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When it comes to this subject, I think girls are full of themselves. You think guys can't control themselves around you? Guess what - not all of you are that great! When people are dating, one of the...
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thank you for your respectful answer (I'm always so fearful of disagreements). I don't really see the entire gender being referenced, just a very specific group of teens from the perspective of one of...
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GAW - I'm astounded, absolutely flabbergasted. It's not simply Halacha, it's the attitude. If we're going to talk about Halacha well then there's nothing wrong with boys rating girls either, even...
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